Finally the race card backfires

During the primary season the race card was played by Obama campaign and their surrogates in the media. Hillary and Bill the so called "Black president" were at the receiving end and the media and many Obama bloggers here were cheering. As good Democrats there was little Bill and Hillary could do about it.

Sen. McCain is not a Democrat and it is time Obama campaign realizes that. He is not going to take any race card shit.

What worked against Hillary will not work against McCain.

It is about time our campaign adapts to the reality.

I am sure many of you are going to be mad at me. What you have to realize  is we need to look at our campaign critically. Do you want to lose in November? After 8 long years we do not want to lose again!

During the primary season I agreed with Sen. Obama with many of his positions especially about the Iraq war. The reason I did not want to support him was because I was convinced that he could not win.

Sen. Obama please don't listen to Robert Gibbs he is the one that came up withe Osama bin laden Video slamming Dean in 2004. I would have felt very proud losing with Dean than the hapless  Kerry.



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Re: Finally the race card backfires (1.47 / 17)

I've never used this before, but it seems appropriate: Fuck off, troll.  We don't need or want you here.


by NewOaklandDem on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:39:56 PM EST

And the same to everyone who rec'd it: (1.50 / 4)

07rescue
cameoanne
TxDem08
BlueDoggyDogg
Ignored and Disgusted
Lakrosse
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John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.
by Shem on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:25:34 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (1.83 / 6)

Sricki, thanks for finding this gem.

I love it to, because this kid made this video to make fun of people like this:


by DemsLandslide2008 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:40:19 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 3)

Man, this kid should get an award.

I wonder if he wrote the lyrics?


by DemsLandslide2008 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:41:57 PM EST
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LOL, you're SO welcome! n/t (2.00 / 3)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:43:48 PM EST
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Re: LOL, you're SO welcome! n/t (2.00 / 2)

Im so serious Sricki,

I saw this thread and search vigourously to find it.

Man I cant get the song out of my head.........

Internet,  Seriouz Bizzness!

over and over..........


by DemsLandslide2008 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:48:39 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 1)

Bah.  Merely a disciple of Numa Numa.  Still, pretty good stuff.


by username on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:46:48 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 1)

Nevermind -- I hadn't reached the singing.  That dude pwns!


by username on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:49:47 PM EST
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More smears from the PUMA brigade. (2.00 / 5)

You people are exhausting.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:43:09 PM EST

Well (2.00 / 4)

Thank you for your thoughtful insight.  I'm glad to know how you feel.

Oh, by the way, had this been posted at RedState.com it would have been worded much the same.  Just thought I'd get that out there.

Did Obama cross a line?  Perhaps, perhaps not.  Is John McCain race baiting?  No, he isn't and his campaign isn't.  Are members of the Republican Party race-baiting?

You bet your ass.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:46:00 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (1.83 / 6)

When you say:

"It is about time our campaign adapts to the reality."

Who the fuck are you talking about?  By "our" I can only assume you mean Republican.  You're on the wrong site dipshit.


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:46:02 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 3)

I'm with the Guardian on this one:

It was not clear last night whether McCain genuinely felt he had been traduced by Obama the previous day, or whether McCain's team is exploiting Obama's comments to get race up and running as an issue.

Except I probably wouldn't have used the word "traduced". It means "slandered", but I had to look it up. Must be a British thing.

Personally, I think he was dancing around race, without actually saying it, but as part of a more general Republican strategy:

McCain's team pounced on Obama over a speech in Springfield, Missouri, in which he said: "So nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face, so what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He's risky. That's essentially the argument they're making."

It's not "They're after the black guy!", but it would end up being played that way. Unfortunately, when you're discussing the right-wing attacks on Obama, you can't get away from the fact that some involve either (A) race, (B) parentage, (C) ignorance.


by TCQuad on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:46:14 PM EST

Traduced (2.00 / 2)

"Traduce" is an archaic word meaning "to slander within a group."  It's related to the more obscure "terduce," meaning "to slander outside a group."  It's kind of like "intranet" versus "internet."  Interestingly, the first person plural tense of "terduce," "terducken," came to mean "duck inside chicken inside turkey," a vile and bizarre type of food.  Linguists have no idea why.


by username on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:55:38 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 5)

Actually, you can't play the race card unless you have a creature on the table and you tap three forests. Unless you discard your hand.


by Cincinnatus on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:46:17 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 3)

Lightnin Bolt!


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:49:25 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 3)

Fire Ball. >;D


by JBGolden on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:54:33 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 2)

Pikachu, I choose you!

Um... I mean...

Wait, this isn't where I parked my car...


by TCQuad on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:04:05 PM EST
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Double reverse race trap card (none / 0)

Yeah, I went there.


"Is there no keeping with class in whom we mingle with anymore?"
by Brandon on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:49:59 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (1.85 / 7)

And Obama has to ignore the fact that he is black?

And he isn't allowed to call them on their bullshit when they use subtle little messages to remind people of that?

Go fuck yourself, McTroll.

Obama's damned right they're carefully trying to paint him as the "scary" candidate.  Gee, what better way to do that than to remind everyone he's black.


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by LtWorf on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:50:51 PM EST

Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (2.00 / 3)

I think he needs to ignore the comments and just let them pile up. If there's racial context, he won't have to say anything. Others will on his behalf. Not just the people who usually get called about racially sensitive issues, ones who don't usually step up.

I have no doubt that, left to his own devices, McCain has abandoned his principles enough to possibly attack Obama's race later on. But people already don't like that kind of thing, no matter waht their hidden prejudices may be. If Obama lets him dig his own grave, others will cover him with dirt.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:58:15 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

yeah, that was John Kerry's plan for the swift-boaters...how did that work out for us again?


by zerosumgame on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:52:40 PM EST
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Lay back and take it (none / 0)

cannot be on the table, as it is not a real option.


"Is there no keeping with class in whom we mingle with anymore?"
by Brandon on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:59:01 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

I think John Kerry's tactic for that was also to simply play the role of the victim. And honestly, the swift boat charges were far less damaging than the the ones that made him look like a spineless liberal. Flip-flop killed Kerry, not Swift-Boat.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:41:05 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

BAH! They got me doing it now. "Spineless liberal" is what I meant. Liberal is not spineless nor insulting.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:41:42 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

And all sincerity after this day I half expect them to run a parody of the scene in Blazing Saddles when Cleavon Little as Sheriff Bart and Gene Wilder as the Waco Kid lure a couple of Klansmen out behind a rock with Bart screaming "Where all da white women at?"  That's how utterly ridiculous and craven these bastards are.  

I don't know if they scare me more or the idiots who will buy into it.


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by LtWorf on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:03:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This is OT (none / 0)

but that scene is Hilarious.


"Is there no keeping with class in whom we mingle with anymore?"
by Brandon on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:07:53 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

Wow, you are much more optimistic than I am about how smart or aware Americans are.  Letting the racist crap pile up will convince at least 10% of the country that they need to vote against the scary black man (SBM for short).


by ProgressiveDL on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:14:30 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

I think racist language and overt prejudice is tolerated less than you seem to think. But at any rate, CHARGES of racism are tolerated even less than that.

It isn't that racist plays aren't damaging, it's that making the accusation when it may not be warranted is far more damaging. If people think obama is playing the victim card, say goodbye to his chances. He cannot simply shout "THAT'S RACIST" any time McCain does anything that can be interpreted that way. He has to stand tall through it. It's not right, it's just how it is. It shows character.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:39:21 PM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

Maybe.  But the fact that people are more willing to tolerate outright racism than someone calling the racist out is pretty reprehensible.  Unfortunately, I think you are right.  It happens the exact same way with sexism.  "Women shouldn't be in politics" = no big deal.  "Women need equal rights" = "OMG YOU MAN-HATING FEMINIST B#TCH!!!"


by ProgressiveDL on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 09:32:52 AM EST
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Re: Ummm...yeah...whatever (none / 0)

If it were outright racism, it wouldn't need to be interpreted. that's the problem.

Of course, Obama doesn't ever need to play race ever again at this point, because he's opened the door to evidence of McCain's using race. Any minority group watching that is taking notes. Obama can deny, deny, deny at this point, because white people HATE thinking about racism. But it's something followed by people who actually have to live with it. That might be (in retrospect) what he was doing. If so, kudos, now don't talk about it again.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 04:11:04 AM EST
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Olde Time LOL (2.00 / 5)


by Skaje on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:53:08 PM EST

This is ridiculous (2.00 / 5)


   Obama says that GOP is trying to scare voters b/c he's black. We know that's what the GOP does to black candidates.

  And yet it's Obama playing the race card. Good grief!!

  In the primary, it was a Clinton surrogate who suggested Obama was a crackhead. It was a Clinton surrogate who suggested Obama wouldn't be anywhere near where he was if he was white.

  But it was Obama playing the race card.

  Oh brother....the lunacy returns!!!!


by southernman on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:54:21 PM EST

Re: This is ridiculous (none / 0)

"Oh brother"

I am offended by this blatant playing of the race card.  HARUMPH.

:-)


by ProgressiveDL on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:15:45 PM EST
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I suggest you move on with your primary (none / 0)

war thing..we can also use some famous quotations about HRC that some famous priest formerly associated with Obama spouted. The nastiness went both sides. So forget the primary BS, move on, keep the eye on the ball which is to elect Obama..take care.


by louisprandtl on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:21:43 PM EST
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the race card backfires... maybe not (2.00 / 2)

Some don't agree with you.

http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0 7/31/say-what-john-mccain-barack-obama-a nd-the-race-card/


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:54:41 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 2)

In a campaign where emails about Obama being a Muslim terrorist have been sent around, and after the 2004 campaign in which fear was pretty much the sole GOP talking point, I can't imagine how what Obama said is "playing the race card."  

Are you a fucking Democrat or not?  If not, fine...then why are you here?  If so, what's the deal with defending the GOP, after all that they've done?


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:54:55 PM EST

I think some of us were (2.00 / 4)

angry in the primary where the "fairy tale" line was construed to mean race when Bill clearly meant Obama's Iraq record, Jesse Jackson Jr. said that Hillary "didn't cry for the people in Katrina" which was clearly meant to say "Hillary Clinton doesn't care about black people," Michelle said in November that blacks would "come to their senses" and vote for Barack Obama as if voting for someone who wasn't Obama was not coming to their senses, and other incidents.


by Lakrosse on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:06:22 PM EST
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Re: I think some of us were (2.00 / 1)

That's fair, actually.

That doesn't mean that Senator Clinton, her husband, her campaign, and her prominent supporters never said anything to inject race into the race negatively, whether they meant to or not.

Suggesting he was a drug dealer, for example....nobody asked that about Bill!


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:08:11 PM EST
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Re: I think some of us were (2.00 / 2)

Some of us were equally angry to see a former President playing the attack dog against candidates in his own party.    


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:11:36 PM EST
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he wanted his wife to be the nominee (2.00 / 3)

and he has a right to do that in a primary contest. Is there something wrong with advocating his wife and favorite candidate? If it were a general election, then yea I'd be mad. But it was a Democratic primary. He can have his own dog in this race.


by Lakrosse on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:22:37 PM EST
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Re: he wanted his wife to be the nominee (1.66 / 3)

Sure he can.  You are absolutely correct.

But, seriously, "hard working white voters?"  "Jesse Jackson ran a good campaign and he won in 1984 and 1988?"  "I wonder if Obama ever sold the drugs?"  "He wouldn't be where he is if he weren't black?"  

Obviously only one of those is Bill Clinton.  I also don't think that every one of those was meant to be what they turned out to be.  However, they're pretty indefensible.

They're also a big chunk of why Hillary lost.  And those words were not put into their mouths.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:26:28 PM EST
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Re: he wanted his wife to be the nominee (2.00 / 5)

No they were not a big chunk of why Hillary lost.  She lost b/c people were actually convinced by the Obama campaign that she thought and that both her and Bill said those things.

Just like the one quote that is Bill's.  If you were not trying to be inflammatory, then why would you put the other quotes up there in one sentence and then later say that only one was Bill's quote?  -That right there, is why Obama played the race card against Hillary, that mentality that the underlying premise could be put out there w/out rebuttal or challenge.

That is complete Bull Shit and one of the main reasons that every time I attempt to coalese and start to feel comfortable supporting Obama actively that his campaign plays the BS and his supporters purport to "shed light" on a topic in such a way that makes me feel as if they are no better than John McCain or GW in their tactics or propaganda.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:05:45 PM EST
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Re: he wanted his wife to be the nominee (2.00 / 2)

That isn't why she lost...

She lost because her campaign was poorly managed.  End of story.


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:30:35 PM EST
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Re: he wanted his wife to be the nominee (none / 0)

I would say it would be in addition to, but not soley b/c of.

Any attempt to say that it was just b/c of a inept campaign manager is trying to be a revisionist historian.

However, the big turn around was when the race card was played and the pressure applied afterwards by those playing the race card.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:44:54 PM EST
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Re: he wanted his wife to be the nominee (2.00 / 1)

I'm not arguing over what he had a right to do.  He has a right to do pretty much anything.

It's not about his right.  It's about being classy.  He could have advocated for his wife without resorting to attacking other Democrats, one of whom became the nominee.  


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:53:03 PM EST
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Re: he wanted his wife to be the nominee (2.00 / 2)

Like a Senator saying his opponent would lie and say anything to get elected?  Play the race card?  Accuse his opponents campaign of leaking tastless photo's and using a Republican attack ad against another Democrat?

Staying classy like that?  Using your logic he could have campaigned w/out resorting to attacking another Democrat, one of whom is a former President.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:49:44 PM EST
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Re: he wanted his wife to be the nominee (none / 0)

I have fairly low expectations about how politicians will behave during campaigns.  It Hillary and Obama resorted to attacking each other, so be it.  They did, it was sad to see, but it wasn't entirely unexpected.

But Bill is a former President.  And he went like a pit bull at members of his own party.  He could have been an advocate for his wife and the values of his party without smearing other Democrats.  


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:54:38 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 7)

boo.




these trolls are killing mydd for me.


lemon716, mydd's little lemon drop;
by alyssa chaos on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 07:57:07 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 5)

A-men.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:05:23 PM EST
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Here's your answer (2.00 / 2)

from jsfox's link:

The phrase dealing the race card "from the bottom of the deck" entered the national lexicon during the O.J. Simpson saga. Robert Shapiro, one of Mr. Simpson's lawyers, famously declared of himself, Johnny Cochran and the rest of the Simpson defense team, "Not only did we play the race card, we dealt it from the bottom of the deck."

So, Rick Davis coincidentally links Obama and O.J.? Really?

It's a truly shrewd attack line, but make no mistake that it's racial.


by Neef on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:03:20 PM EST

He has so many cards.... (2.00 / 2)

Also, how dare Obama play the "Being a Vastly Superior Candidate" card? It's hardly sporting.


by Cincinnatus on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:04:26 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 3)

The Following Users Have Recommended This Diary:
Lakrosse
catfish2

Well, duh.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:05:45 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 3)

after your BS comment above you can now add me into that mix as well.....


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:06:23 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 2)

We knew you were already there in spirit.


by Kysen on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:16:33 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (none / 0)

Yes, I'm sure you did.  I just wanted to make sure you noticed just in case you were too busy shuffling your cards.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:38:41 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (none / 0)

If you can stomach recommending this pile of tripe masquerading as a diary based on one comment by one person who is not even the author of said diary, I think you should take a little break from "the internets"....  Go outside and play...


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:32:34 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 1)

Hell, if I can compromise and vote for Obama I can certainly compromise and rec this.  And it's more than just one comment by one person, it's continued comments by the same person continuing make the kind of comments he/she is making.

And as far as the "internets" I thought they were just tubes?


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:42:07 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (none / 0)

Reccing a diary based on some negative comments is like voting against a candidate based on the remarks of his or her supporters on the internet.

Oh wait...


by Cincinnatus on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:54:29 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (1.66 / 3)

Why don't you go back to your old man lover McBushes web site and bask in an old man's smell troll.


by Spanky on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:07:29 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (2.00 / 4)


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:08:29 PM EST

Nice to see (2.00 / 3)

you troll now excuse us because Obama is busy winning a election.


by hocuspocus on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 08:25:03 PM EST

What race card? (2.00 / 1)


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:20:02 PM EST

What race card? (2.00 / 1)


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:20:11 PM EST

Way you could have written this diary: (2.00 / 3)

"Look, it's disingenuous to claim that Obama wasn't referring to the color of his skin.  The campaign's denial didn't even pass the laugh test.  It's a good line--funny, hip, with more than a kernel of truth to it.  But you gotta realize that while it plays well to some, especially in our party, it doesn't play well to a whole lot of voters we really need, including moderate Republicans and disgruntled former Clinton supporters.  So, be careful with that kind of wink-wink shit, because it just won't play so well in the general election."

But you didn't.  You had to base it all on that "Obama and the media teamed up to destroy the Clintons with the race card" bullshit.  Rather than a helpful diary about how maybe we could like frame it better cause we're all in this together, dudes, we get one that says, your guy's a cynical player of the card of the race, and he better stop it quick because true-blue Americans won't have the wool pulled over

shit i don't even have the heart to finish it.  pretty weak.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:38:22 PM EST

MUST...HOLD ...BACK (2.00 / 1)

I am retiring my offensive name for Hillary, because it isn't her, it is scum that have deluded themselves to believe they are in fact speakin in her name that I loathe, thank you for helping me lowly troll.


"Is there no keeping with class in whom we mingle with anymore?"
by Brandon on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 09:47:32 PM EST

Thank you, Senator Lieberman (2.00 / 1)


by RandyMI on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:12:59 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (none / 0)

Finally, a troll diary backfires.


* Hums Mr. Rogers theme *
by Maori on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:30:00 PM EST

David Duke posts at Mydd? (2.00 / 1)

Or is this Larry Johnson or Pagan Power slithering back?


by Geekesque on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:30:03 PM EST

to many comments (2.00 / 2)

helped put this on the rec list.


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by kevin22262 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:06:03 PM EST

Re: Finally the race card backfires (none / 0)

Just look at the words 'Finally' and 'card' in their context in this subject line. It makes me puke.  With all the racist shit that HAS gone on, IT AIN'T A CARD being played.

And, finally, the word finally just so clearly demonstrates where this diarist is coming from.

Sucky loser.


I will wear my heart upon my sleeve For daws to peck at
by Iago on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:16:40 PM EST

I, for one (2.00 / 2)

Congratulate our esteemed "colleagues" who put this on the Wreck List.

Oh, by the way.  We outnumber you now.  By a lot.  How's obscurity working out for ya?  You used to be able to dominate the Wreck List.  Now?  Not so much.

This is a site for Democrats who want to win.  You folks run the gamut, I won't claim to know how to pigeonhole you.  Some are honest and angry Democrats.  Some are nutjobs.  Some are Republicans in all likelihood.

You don't run this place anymore.  

The diarist may well have written this in good faith.  If that's true he's certainly got a minority viewpoint here, and an interesting perspective.  Those of you who actively Rec'ed this diary, however......

Your powers are waning.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:17:12 PM EST

Re: I, for one (2.00 / 1)

Here is my problem with your comments.  You continue to assume that anyone who is not falling lock-step with you as un-loyal or faux democrats.  You continue to lump in those Democrats who continue to attempt to coalese around Obama but have to endure your and others baseless and continued trash regarding what happened during the Primaries.

Your comments are fueling the debates and the back and forth that you are decrying.  Your(not soley you, for there are many that are more over the top and more responsible in general) comments are the source of what is going on here.  Even in your last response, you lump in angry Dem's with nutjobs and Republican's.  Whether you realize it or not, you are fueling the flame wars w/ your vitriol.

You have become what you're decrying.

You can agree, disagree or think it's B.S.  I'm telling you what I see and how your comments are coming across.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 11:59:04 PM EST
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Re: Finally the race card backfires (1.00 / 2)

It is what it is.

""They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?" ---- Barack Obama


by soyousay on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:58:05 AM EST


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